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We’re thrilled to launch this new series as we celebrate 40 years of keeping healthcare professionals ahead of critical medication updates and guidelines.
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Clinical Capsules
Pneumococcal Vaccine Recommendations
In this episode, TRC Healthcare editor, Vickie Danaher, PharmD, discusses Pneumococcal Vaccine Recommendations for Adults.
This is an excerpt from our December 2024 Pharmacy Essential Updates continuing education webinar series.
The clinical resources mentioned during the podcast are part of a subscription to Pharmacist’s Letter, Pharmacy Technician’s Letter, and Prescriber Insights:
- Article: Prepare to Give More Adults a Pneumococcal Vaccine
- Algorithm: Pneumococcal Vaccination in Adults
- Chart: Comparison of Pneumococcal Vaccines
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00:00:04 Narrator
Welcome to Clinical Capsules, where we bring you the same evidence-based insights you trust from TRC Healthcare, now in podcast form. We’re thrilled to launch this new series as we celebrate 40 years of keeping healthcare professionals ahead of critical medication updates and guidelines.
00:00:23 Narrator
Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday, our expert editors from Pharmacist’s Letter, Prescriber Insights, and Pharmacy Technician’s Letter will break down the most impactful clinical developments - giving you clear, actionable takeaways in just minutes.
00:00:38 Narrator
Today, in our very first episode, you'll hear an excerpt from our December 2024 pharmacy, essential updates, continuing Education Webinar series in this segment. Associate editor and pharmacist Vicky Danaher explains the latest changes to adult pneumococcal vaccine recommendations.
00:00:57 Narrator
With that, let's get started.
00:01:04 Vickie Danaher
Let's dive into what's going on with pneumococcal vaccines for adults.
00:01:09 Vickie Danaher
And we're talking about this because CDC has made some big changes to the recommendations regarding which patients need pneumococcal vaccination.
00:01:17 Vickie Danaher
We also have a new PCV 21 vaccine, which as in the mix of options that we have for vaccinating our patients and it's often confusing to know which vaccine to use.
00:01:28 Vickie Danaher
Plus, we've been getting lots of questions from you, our subscribers about how to incorporate all of these changes and updates into practice.
00:01:36 Vickie Danaher
So today we're going to answer your big questions and essentially go through The Who, what, when, where and why of pneumococcal vaccines.
00:01:43 Vickie Danaher
We'll talk about which adults need a pneumococcal vaccine and what's the right time for these patients to be vaccinated.
00:01:50 Vickie Danaher
We'll also talk about how the different pneumococcal vaccines compare and then if there's a preferred pneumococcal vaccine that adults should get.
00:01:58 Vickie Danaher
For example, if there's any vaccine, that's a better choice over another for particular patients.
00:02:05 Vickie Danaher
And this is especially important to discuss since the number of pneumococcal vaccines for adults keeps on growing.
00:02:11 Vickie Danaher
So like I mentioned, there is now a 21 valent pneumococcal conjugate vaccine, or PCV 21, which goes by the brand name catfaxiv.
00:02:20 Vickie Danaher
And this joins the other pneumococcal vaccines that were used to giving our patients, so PCV 20, which is Prevnar 20, PCV 15, which is VAX new Vance and then PSV 23, which is the pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, pneumovax 23.
00:02:39 Vickie Danaher
Another reason people's heads hurt to spin when we talk about pneumococcal vaccines is because the recommendations have evolved over the.
00:02:46 Vickie Danaher
Based on available evidence, we're not going to go through a full history lesson here, but even in the last five to 10 years, there's been multiple changes.
00:02:55 Vickie Danaher
For example, back in 2014, we were giving patients 65 and older a vaccine called Prevnar 13, or PCV 13 plus. Pneumovax 23A year later.
00:03:08 Vickie Danaher
And then a few years later, in 2019, we moved to mainly focusing on giving Pneumovax 23 to these patients because it was found that many older adults were already getting the benefits of Prevnar 13 indirectly through the use of Prevnar 13 in children.
00:03:25 Vickie Danaher
Then, in 2022, the recommendation shifted towards using the newer pneumococcal conjugate vaccines, Prevnar 20, or vaccine advance for at risk adults and adults 65 and older.
00:03:37 Vickie Danaher
And now, most recently, CDC has made changes to both the age at which older patients should be vaccinated, plus which vaccine should be used.
00:03:46 Vickie Danaher
So what is recommended?
00:03:47 Vickie Danaher
Which adults need a pneumococcal vaccine?
00:03:51 Vickie Danaher
And the big change here is that CDC has lowered the age at which adults should get vaccinated.
00:03:58 Vickie Danaher
So now we want to be recommending routine pneumococcal immunization for adults starting at age 50 years and older, instead of starting at age 65.
00:04:09 Vickie Danaher
And part of the reason why CDC is lowering the age for vaccination is because many adults aged 50 to 64 already have risk for pneumococcal disease.
00:04:17 Vickie Danaher
Which we know can cause pneumonia and ingredients and bloodstream infections.
00:04:22 Vickie Danaher
So, for example, at least 40 to 50% of these patients ready have conditions like diabetes, heart disease or weakened immune system, which puts them at increased risk of developing invasive or more severe illness.
00:04:35 Vickie Danaher
But in some cases, patients might not even know yet that they have these conditions or they don't realize that these conditions are a reason that they should get a pneumococcal vaccine.
00:04:45 Vickie Danaher
Plus, some patient populations have a higher rate of pneumococcal disease at an earlier age.
00:04:51 Vickie Danaher
For instance, serious cases peak and black or African American adults at age 55 to 59.
00:04:58 Vickie Danaher
So it makes sense that patients should be vaccinated sooner to prevent illness before it occurs.
00:05:05 Vickie Danaher
So in our daily workflow, we want to be watching out for our patients age 50 and older who are now recommended for pneumococcal vaccination by checking dates of birth or verifying their age.
00:05:15 Vickie Danaher
And starting a discussion or offering to provide information about immunization.
00:05:20 Vickie Danaher
In addition, we want to continue to stay alert for another group of adults that are also recommended to get a pneumococcal vaccine and those are patients aged 19 to 49 years old with immunocompromising conditions or risk factors.
00:05:37 Vickie Danaher
So we continue to look for patients who have immunocompromising conditions such as cancer or HIV or who are taking immunosuppressants such as methotrexate or adult libab.
00:05:50 Vickie Danaher
We also want to watch for those who have chronic health conditions, such as diabetes or heart, liver, lung disease, or who smoke, or who have alcoholism.
00:06:00 Vickie Danaher
And also listen out for other reasons that could make patients a candidate for pneumococcal vaccine, such as having a cochlear implant.
00:06:10 Vickie Danaher
Any of these things are a reason that patients should be vaccinated against pneumococcal disease.
00:06:17 Vickie Danaher
All right, so now that we know who should get a pneumococcal vaccine, let's stick into the actual vaccines and see how they compare.
00:06:26 Vickie Danaher
And like I alluded to earlier, there's two different types of pneumococcal vaccine for adults.
00:06:31 Vickie Danaher
So conjugate vaccines and polysaccharide vaccines, the pneumococcal conjugate vaccines or pcv are pcv 21 or cepacciv, pcv 20 or Prevnar.
00:06:45 Vickie Danaher
And PCV 15 or vaccine advance.
00:06:49 Vickie Danaher
And the way that these vaccines work is that they're conjugated or linked to a carrier protein, which Spurs production of memory cells.
00:06:57 Vickie Danaher
And this may lead to longer lasting and better immunity than polysaccharide vaccines or ppsv 23, which is pneumovax 23.
00:07:06 Vickie Danaher
Any of these options is a 0.5 ml dose given one time into the muscle. Although Ppsv 23 can also be given subcutaneously if desired.
00:07:20 Vickie Danaher
But a big difference with these vaccines is how their serotype coverage compares.
00:07:24 Vickie Danaher
Meaning, what strains they protect against?
00:07:28 Vickie Danaher
So for example, a PCV 21 helps protect against 21 specific stereotypes or strains of pneumococcal bacteria.
00:07:35 Vickie Danaher
PCV20 protects against 20 stereotypes and so forth.
00:07:41 Vickie Danaher
But point out that PCV 21 isn't just PCV 20 + 1.
00:07:45
Replay.
00:07:48 Vickie Danaher
Instead, PCV 21 covers 10 of the same serotypes as PCV 20 + 11 others.
00:07:56 Vickie Danaher
Npcv 21 protects against 8 stereotypes not included in any other pneumococcal vaccine.
00:08:05 Vickie Danaher
CDC estimates that PCV 21 targets serotypes that cause up to about 85% of invasive pneumococcal disease in adults.
00:08:14 Vickie Danaher
Whereas PCB20 targets up to about 65% of these strains.
00:08:20 Vickie Danaher
So overall PCV 21 has greater coverage of the strains causing invasive pneumococcal disease compared to PCB 20.
00:08:29 Vickie Danaher
On the other hand, PCV 21 is the only current pneumococcal vaccine that does not include coverage for STEROTYPE 4.
00:08:40 Vickie Danaher
And serotype 4 is responsible for causing over 30% of invasive pneumococcal disease in certain populations in the Western United States.
00:08:48 Vickie Danaher
Monitor this data so specifically Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico.
00:08:54 Vickie Danaher
Oregon and the Navajo Nation, which extends into parts of Arizona, New Mexico and Utah.
00:09:02 Vickie Danaher
Typically, patients who live in these conditions who develop serotype 4 disease are adults under age 65 who have specific risk factors such as alcoholism, chronic lung disease, smoking, homelessness and injection drug use.
00:09:20 Vickie Danaher
So, given the differences in the vaccines and the strains they cover, this leads us to the $1,000,000 question which pneumococo vaccine should adults get.
00:09:30 Vickie Danaher
And before I share our bottom line on this, I want to point out that you can use CDC's Pneumo Rex VAX advisor app or website to get the full recommendations and patient specific guidance.
00:09:41 Vickie Danaher
You're not already familiar with this tool. You basically enter a patients age.
00:09:45 Vickie Danaher
You answer some questions about their pneumococcal vaccine history and.
00:09:49 Vickie Danaher
Their underlying medical conditions and it's going to give you the full details and specifics from the CDC guidelines.
00:09:57 Vickie Danaher
But if you're looking for a simpler way to think about this, consider our practical approach.
00:10:03 Vickie Danaher
And rely on either PCD 20 or PCB 21 as your workhorse product.
00:10:09 Vickie Danaher
And that's because, for all patients aged 19 years and older who need a pneumococcal vaccine, 1 dose of PCV 20 or PCV 21 will get them up to date.
00:10:20 Vickie Danaher
So we can kind of think of these as a one and done at least for right now for any adult who needs a pneumococcal vaccine.
00:10:27 Vickie Danaher
Regardless of their age, risk factors or prior vaccine history.
00:10:32 Vickie Danaher
And to illustrate this further, let's take a minute now to walk through our pneumococcal vaccination in adults algorithm, which you can find in our website.
00:10:40 Vickie Danaher
This algorithm will help you select the recommended PNEUMOCO vaccine, including timing of doses in eligible adults based on their pneumococcal vaccination status.
00:10:52 Vickie Danaher
So, for example, eligible adults who have not had a pneumococcal vaccine before or whose history is unknown, should get PCV 21 or kept active or PCV 20 or Prevnar 20.
00:11:07 Vickie Danaher
In these patients PCV 15 or Dex Nuvance is another option.
00:11:12 Vickie Danaher
But this requires PPS V 23 or pneumovax. Usually a year later to complete the series.
00:11:19 Vickie Danaher
And we know that it can often be tricky to get patients to come back in for another vaccine.
00:11:23 Vickie Danaher
This approach also requires stacking multiple vaccines, which may not be practical.
00:11:30 Vickie Danaher
It's a similar story for adults who have just had ppsv 23 or pneumovax before.
00:11:36 Vickie Danaher
These patients should also get PCV 21 or PCV 1:20 year or they can get PCV 15. Alternatively, to complete the series.
00:11:48 Vickie Danaher
And then for patients who have only previously received Prevnar 13 or PCV 13, again we should recommend PCV 21 or PCV 20.
00:12:00 Vickie Danaher
This is also true for those patients who received PCV 13 at any age and who got ppsv 23 before their 65th birthday.
00:12:10 Vickie Danaher
But for those patients aged 65 and older who received PCV 13 at any age and who received PPV 23 after they turned 65, another pneumococcal vaccine is not automatically recommended.
00:12:27 Vickie Danaher
Instead, we want to use shared clinical decision making and work more closely with the patient to help them decide about getting PCV 20 or PCV 21 after five years.
00:12:38 Vickie Danaher
For example, we can help these patients weigh.
00:12:41 Vickie Danaher
Exposure risk.
00:12:42 Vickie Danaher
By considering if they live in a nursing home or another long term care facility, or if they're in an area with low vaccine uptake.
00:12:50 Vickie Danaher
We can also help them think about if they have any health issues that put them at a higher risk of developing severe pneumococcal disease.
00:12:57 Vickie Danaher
Such as having an immunocompromising condition, lung disease or diabetes.
00:13:03 Vickie Danaher
And then we also want to consider how long it's been since the patient's last pneumococcal vaccination.
00:13:08 Vickie Danaher
Since the benefit of Ppsv 23 wanes after about five years.
00:13:15 Vickie Danaher
Alright, so I know we breezed through that fairly quickly, but again, the goal here was to mainly highlight how again that we can use either PCV 20 or PCV 21 as the workhorse product since 1 dose of either product will get all adults in the pneumococcal vacc.
00:13:30 Vickie Danaher
Up to date.
00:13:33 Vickie Danaher
And when it comes down to choosing between PCV 20 or PCV 21, in general, we want to focus on getting eligible adults vaccinated with either option rather than worrying too much about which product they get.
00:13:47 Vickie Danaher
CDC hasn't expressed a particular preference for one product over another.
00:13:54 Vickie Danaher
But we do want to weigh nuances and consider our patient population location and so forth.
00:14:00 Vickie Danaher
For example, we want to go with PCV 21, which has better overall stereotype coverage but lean towards PCV 20 if invasive. Pneumococcal disease, due to serotype 4 is a concern such As for adults living in Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico and Oregon who have alcoholism or who are.
00:14:18 Vickie Danaher
Homelessness.
00:14:21 Vickie Danaher
Also keep in mind that PCV 21 is currently only approved for ages 18 years and up.
00:14:28 Vickie Danaher
The PCB 20 can be used to immunize both adults and children.
00:14:34 Vickie Danaher
So if you do stock both PCV 20 and 21, we want to make sure we use strategies to make sure that we're using the appropriate vaccine for the patients age.
00:14:39
Replay.
00:14:46 Vickie Danaher
Point out that PCV 21 costs about $290.00 per dose and PCV 20 costs about $265 per dose. Medicare Part B will cover any recommended option, but it may take other pairs time to align their coverage benefits to the updated C.
00:15:05 Vickie Danaher
So keep that in mind, especially when vaccinating younger patients.
00:15:12 Vickie Danaher
Now let's go through a couple patient cases to apply what we've learned.
00:15:17 Vickie Danaher
So here's our first patient, Joe.
00:15:19 Vickie Danaher
He's 22 years old.
00:15:21 Vickie Danaher
He doesn't have any allergies or medical conditions, but he does smoke and he has no history of pneumonia vaccines.
00:15:30 Vickie Danaher
Is a pneumococcal vaccine recommended for Joe, and if so, which one should he get?
00:15:38 Vickie Danaher
The answer here is yes, pneumococcal vaccination is recommended for Joe.
00:15:43 Vickie Danaher
He's between age 19 and 49 years old and smoking puts him at a high risk of pneumococcal disease.
00:15:52 Vickie Danaher
And since he has not had pneumococcal vaccine in the past, Joe should get one dose of PCV 21 or PCV 20.
00:16:01 Vickie Danaher
Like I said earlier, another option would be PCV 15.
00:16:05 Vickie Danaher
But then Joe would also need to come back for Ppsv 23 to complete the series.
00:16:12 Vickie Danaher
Let's move on to patient #2. This is.
00:16:15 Vickie Danaher
She's 85 years old and she also smokes, but she's already received Prevnar 13, or PCV 13 when she was age 69.
00:16:26 Vickie Danaher
And then she received Ppsv 23 one year later, when she was 70 years old.
00:16:32 Vickie Danaher
What do you think about this case?
00:16:37 Vickie Danaher
So this one's a little trickier, but Jane's case would be an example where that shared clinical decision making would be recommended so we can help Jane make a choice about getting either PCV 21 or PCV 20.
00:16:50 Vickie Danaher
Certainly, the fact that she smokes is a reason that would favor her getting vaccinated.
00:16:55 Vickie Danaher
We'd also want to weigh other things.
00:16:58 Vickie Danaher
Medical.
00:16:59 Vickie Danaher
Her life expectancy and her preferences and values.
00:17:05 Vickie Danaher
And then the last case that we have is our patient Barry.
00:17:09 Vickie Danaher
He is 66 years old and he has diabetes. Looking at his vaccine history, he last received PCV 13 when he was 62.
00:17:21 Vickie Danaher
That's about four years ago.
00:17:23 Vickie Danaher
Should Barry get another pneumococcal vaccine today?
00:17:29 Vickie Danaher
Patients who have a history of only PCV 13 should get PCV 21 or PCV 20 at least one year later.
00:17:39 Vickie Danaher
So yes, vaccination would also be recommended for Barry.
00:17:44 Vickie Danaher
So to close things out here, let's look at some practice pearls.
00:17:48 Vickie Danaher
So these cases were a good reminder for us to keep patient profiles updated with medical conditions and smoking status and previous vaccines, since this is going to help us identify candidates for pneumococcal vaccination.
00:18:01 Vickie Danaher
We also want to stay alert for confusion with vaccine abbreviations.
00:18:05 Vickie Danaher
You know, it was tricky for.
00:18:06 Vickie Danaher
Confusing all the different PCV products like PCV15PCV20PCV21 with each other.
00:18:15 Vickie Danaher
Last but not least, we want to continue to ask patients about other needed vaccines such as flu and RSV.
00:18:20 Vickie Danaher
Can be given at the same visit as pneumococcal vaccine.
00:18:26 Vickie Danaher
Alright, so I know there's a lot to sort through here, but we have lots of resources that can make it a lot easier for.
00:18:32 Vickie Danaher
And your.
00:18:33 Vickie Danaher
So feel free to save or print out that pneumococcal vaccination in adults algorithm and you can have copies in your pharmacy or in your practice to quickly and easily determine which vaccine a patient needs.
00:18:46 Vickie Danaher
And when we also have in our December 2024 article on our website and in the print issues we have this streamline table of our simplified.
00:18:57 Vickie Danaher
Approach to pneumococcal.
00:18:58 Vickie Danaher
So this is a quick and handy reference chart.
00:19:01 Vickie Danaher
You can also get our updated chart comparison of pneumococcal vaccines for a side by side look at products, dosing, serotype coverage and more.
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